Karen Pressley and I discuss the death of Kyle Brennan, Mike Rinder’s involvement, the lack of support from the Aftermath community, and Karen De La Carriere’s behavior.
What Does Karen Pressley Say About Why Kyle Brennan Didn’t Have An Episode Of Scientology And The Aftermath
Corey Andrews 9:09 PM: hey there
Karen Pressley 9:11 PM: Hey Corey! Been thinking about you a lot! I’ve not been into any Scientology activism lately because I’m very focused on the impeachment process.
Corey Andrews 9:12 PM: Yes I too have been following the impeachment just a tad. I just had a 2 hour phone call with Victoria Britton, and ive learned a lot.
Corey Andrews 9:14 PM: I feel that Kyle’s story is part of what holds the key to David Miscavige’s criminal activity being exposed
Corey Andrews 9:15 PM: and it also unsettles me deeply that The Aftermath community doesn’t talk about Kyle’s story like it should be. This is a boy’s life that was lost. Victoria will never get to see him grow up and get married and have a family
Karen Pressley 9:17 PM: Yes I agree. I’ve been in touch with her a while ago and agree, Kyle’s story through her should get much more coverage.
Corey Andrews 9:18 PM: it was a big mistake of Leah & Mike not to feature Kyle, because now I am left pondering, if that show had been really doing what it says it was doing, why are LEGAL moral outrages the focus? Why aren’t actual CRIMINAL acts being highlighted upon?
Corey Andrews 9:18 PM: ive been facing some difficult questions
What Part Did Mike Rinder Play In Kyle Brennan’s Death?
Karen Pressley 9:19 PM: Yes, many people feel that way. The question is what part did mike play in Kyle’s death and la know exposure details? That may play a part in why this didn’t make it on the show.
Corey Andrews 9:20 PM: Yes, I’ve been confronting that issue and that was a large part of what we talked about
Corey Andrews 9:21 PM: From where I’m at now, I don’t see any good reason for why Mike has treated Victoria the way he has in the past. Very cold
Corey Andrews 9:21 PM: He has children now
Karen Pressley 9:22 PM: Yes…only he can confess to that
Corey Andrews 9:22 PM: If he knows ANYTHING, having been the head of the OSA, I hope he one days makes that choice to confess more
Corey Andrews 9:22 PM: one day*
Karen Pressley 9:22 PM: Yes
Corey Andrews 9:25 PM: publicly, I will be posting Mike’s blog on facebook to keep up appearances, but personally, I want you to know that my feelings are conflicted. I think ive been being more loyal to actual PEOPLE than to the truth itself, and if im being entirely honest, I don’t like whats happening and how celebrity anti-scientology is controlling the narrative.
Corey Andrews 9:26 PM: these are my private personal thoughts
Corey Andrews 9:27 PM: I wont be going after anybody or publicly criticizing them because I know that solves nothing, but yeah, I think im withdrawing my support from the anti-scientology community and im going to find myself and where I stand
Karen Pressley 9:27 PM: Yes I hear you.
Karen Pressley 9:28 PM: I’ve been conflicted about Mike in that same way…but support him because of what’s he’s achieved. But I don’t give the unconditional support like some (ASL and KDLC)
Corey Andrews 9:29 PM: this started with Karen DLC trying to push those OSA orders on me, and how Mike completely switched up his attitude when he found out I was suspicious of KDLC. “no you can trust her, shes not always accurate but u can trust her!” bullshit. he just didn’t want to throw her under the bus. He goes from one email stressing how they’re copyrighted materials and then to the next “oh who cares” essentially
Corey Andrews 9:30 PM: funny how one thing causes a domino effect
Karen Pressley 9:30 PM: He takes the diplomatic safe route
Corey Andrews 9:30 PM: I hear you but that doesn’t make it the RIGHT approach.
Karen Pressley 9:31 PM: True. It’s what works for him in many ways.
Corey Andrews 9:32 PM: to me, I saw it as him straight up lying to me to cover her because of the camaraderie they have.
Karen Pressley 9:32 PM: Ugh. The core of the anti-Scientology controlled narrative
Corey Andrews 9:32 PM: I told Victoria about that situation too
Corey Andrews 9:33 PM: she was wowed.
Corey Andrews 9:33 PM: she also helped me realize just how fucked up the anti-scientology community is, and how it really does deserve the term anti-cult cult
Corey Andrews 9:34 PM: another thing is that the ex-scientology community higher-ups control who is or isn’t heard.
Corey Andrews 9:34 PM: which stories are important
Karen Pressley 9:35 PM: True.
Corey Andrews 9:35 PM: its a lot to confront.
Corey Andrews 9:36 PM: like for example, the MOB-like behavior exhibited when Ginger Sugarman went back to scientology or whatever was going on
Corey Andrews 9:36 PM: KDLC was leading that mob
Corey Andrews 9:36 PM: calling her a snake and a vile person
Corey Andrews 9:36 PM: well if THIS is what the ex-scientology community has to offer for people that are trying to LEAVE scientology, I am truly scared for us all.
Corey Andrews 9:37 PM: there is no compassion.
Corey Andrews 9:37 PM: empathy is lacking
Corey Andrews 9:37 PM: a woman that gets SHOT in the face doesn’t deserve to be ganged up on
Corey Andrews 9:37 PM: shes just 1 example
Corey Andrews 9:37 PM: but a very good example
Corey Andrews 9:38 PM: and anyone who DARES defend Ginger gets attacked too
Karen Pressley 9:38 PM: Yes… this has a lot to do with why I e withdrawn largely from the “anti Scientology” community
Corey Andrews 9:38 PM: I finally arrived to where u are at
Corey Andrews 9:38 PM: lol
Corey Andrews 9:39 PM: Victoria has really opened my eyes today
Corey Andrews 9:39 PM: but ive been gradually waking up for awhile now
Corey Andrews 9:39 PM: ever since I started trying to pinpoint what is wrong with the anti-scientology community
Corey Andrews 9:40 PM: and it all started with KDLC.
Corey Andrews 9:43 PM: I have a lot to think about
Corey Andrews 9:43 PM: whats important to me is that im doing the right thing
Corey Andrews 9:44 PM: im happy that u understand where im coming from when I talk
Corey Andrews 9:45 PM: I didn’t know what to expect honestly
Corey Andrews 9:45 PM: but im glad I was able to express my thoughts
Karen Pressley 9:48 PM: Not an easy journey for empathic people with a heart such as you and I.
Corey Andrews 9:49 PM: It’s VERY confusing. Nothing is easy or simple. I wish things could be straight forward
Corey Andrews 9:49 PM: just when I think ive got something figured out, I am thrown a curveball
Karen Pressley 9:50 PM: I think it’s the learning curve of life in this field.
Corey Andrews 9:51 PM: scientology politics are more in depth and hectic than the republican and democratic party lol!
Corey Andrews 9:52 PM: well idk if that’s REALLY true lolol but its still a funny joke
Karen Pressley 9:52 PM: I agree!! There is far more personal emotion involved.
Corey Andrews 9:53 PM: yeah. well im going to head to bed, ive had a long day
Corey Andrews 9:53 PM: glad we chatted
Karen Pressley 9:53 PM: Good to connect with you again 🎄I hope you’re enjoying this holiday season
Corey Andrews 9:54 PM: lol what a coincidence that u gave me that tree emote, we literally just got our tree today
Corey Andrews 9:54 PM:
Corey Andrews 9:55 PM: goodnight, ttyl.
Karen Pressley 9:58 PM: Ttyl
12/20/2019 – The next day:
The Aftermath Community Wants Nothing To Do With Kyle Brennan
Corey Andrews 12:35 PM: Sure ticks me off that the Aftermath community doesn’t push Victoria’s story. I’m not going to let it get buried. I’ve been making a lot of posts about it and I spent hours this morning reading her blogposts and I began reading the deposition of Marty Rathbun
Karen Pressley 12:42 PM: Victoria and Kyle’s story got buried I think partly because of Mike’s hand in it. You have a connection with Mike, you could ask him directly.
Corey Andrews 12:45 PM: I don’t think he would answer me honestly. My phone call with Victoria was enough to break my heart. I don’t even trust any of these people in the Aftermath community anymore. I don’t think any of them are empathetic. They’re too loyal to people instead of the truth itself. The WHOLE truth, with nothing exaggerated and nothing left out.
Corey Andrews 12:49 PM: Im just not going to submit myself to another dumbed down explanation such as the one he gave me of KDLC. He wanted to take the wind out of my sails when I know damn well she made a mistake and he probably reprimanded her to some degree over the issue. Why else would she of reacted so bizarrely over me having a discussion with Mike about what she discussed with me. There are dots to connect, and I believe ive connected them
Corey Andrews 12:49 PM: she never owned up to giving me false info either
Corey Andrews 12:50 PM: despite mike’s “corrections”
Corey Andrews 12:50 PM: I truly wonder what he really said to her
Corey Andrews 12:50 PM: and what she said back
Corey Andrews 12:51 PM: just breaks my heart that these people are so up eachother’s asses and loyal to one another instead of the truth.
Corey Andrews 12:51 PM: NOBODY is talking about the deposition of Marty Rathbun
Corey Andrews 12:52 PM: which is still in effect
Corey Andrews 12:52 PM: im disgusted.
The Anti-Scientology Cult As Explained By Karen Pressley
Karen Pressley 12:57 PM: 😞it looks like you’ve come to terms with the anti-sci community. Same here. It’s been hard for me to explain much of this to you because it’s the kind of thing you must experience and come to your own conclusions. Please such as KDLC, ASL, many outer bankers, have an unconditional support with solidarity toward Mike, Leah, and most people who follow the group think of the anti-sci community. I don’t like or support Marty Rathbun, but I believe he got it right when he counted the term “anti-Scientology cult.” People who are in it want it to stay the way it is because it offers such protection and support. It’s just like being in a cult. It’s group think and if you very from it, you lose the benefits.
Corey Andrews 1:00 PM: yep that’s what is happening… I take careful note of who supports what kinds of tweets, and I notice who doesn’t support my Victoria Britton blog shares
Corey Andrews 1:01 PM: people who NORMALLY support my tweets aren’t supporting the ones that are asking questions
Karen Pressley 1:01 PM: I haven’t read your Victoria posts yet.
Corey Andrews 1:01 PM: im sorry I didn’t mean you
Corey Andrews 1:01 PM: I meant in general
Karen Pressley 1:02 PM: I’m pretty sure Tony covered parts of Kyle’s story a few times. Worth reading.
Corey Andrews 1:02 PM: from what I hear he hasn’t in a long time
Karen Pressley 1:03 PM: I haven’t seen anything lately, at least a year ago.
Corey Andrews 1:03 PM: well idk, this whole situation just makes me uneasy
Karen Pressley 1:04 PM: Happy holidays to you and Jennifer 🎄🎄🎄